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the teeming masses have spoken

Posted on 2005.05.31 at 18:22
Right. I can see from the several thousand people who have written me about it, you want to know about the Jensen arc.

Remember the basic mythology: two warring powers of Fate, one of whom offers selected souls a chance to return and live again. Now, we don't know which power is the "good" one, if we assume there is a good one; the power behind Tru clearly doesn't make this offer to everyone who ever dies, or even everyone who ever died violently. That power has an agenda of its own, to shape human fate in a certain way, and the threads it pulls are in service of that. The individuals who are saved have roles to play in their lives that will send history off in new avenues. All that being said, the power Tru works for does offer more than its opposing force does; it offers a choice to those it selects.

Jensen dies. The audience point of view is not privileged to see what happens to his soul (for lack of a better term) next. But we know he never "wakes," he never asks Tru for help. Either his soul never had that door opened for it -- never had the chance to return -- or he refused it. In which case, his soul's gone on to wherever souls might go.

Tru, however, saves him just the same, when her day rewinds. When Jensen’s dead body lies in front of her she doesn’t know the truth, that he’s already gone -- though she may have some suspicions that what she wants to do is wrong, or dangerous; Davis suggests as much to her. But she’s had enough of losing people. Enough of rearranging her life for some power she can’t understand. She makes her own decision and it’s to stay awake as long as it takes, because if Jensen won’t ask for help, someone else eventually will; and she’ll save them both. The hell with Fate.

But Jensen's soul is already committed -- it can't return, but his body, memories, and the habits of his personality continue after the time he "died." The idea was that over the course of the arc we would gradually see anomalies of character develop -- unsettling moments, as the imprint of Jensen's personality disintegrates, at the same time it becomes fascinated with death, in an almost wistful way. This would be pretty damned creepy, coming as it does alongside Tru's growing physical intimacy with him. Jane Espenson wrote a beautifully disturbing scene that I'm sorry you'll never get a chance to see -- on one level, it's just Tru and Jensen talking on the sofa during a movie, and on another level, oooooh.

As the arc plays out, we hear the jarring comments he'll occasionally make, the way the things that used to mean something to him -- like his need for his father's respect -- are just no longer vulnerabilities. We see scenes that suggest a growing involvement with violence, in an unsettling but ambiguous way, so Tru can't be sure it's there or not. Till one morning Tru wakes in bed with Jensen and goes about her day, which rewinds over the murder of Jensen's father. Just before the rewind she learns that not only did Jensen do it, he's been behind a string of recent killings (born of his fascination with learning about the thing he's apparently been barred from -- i.e., death). She rewinds -- and wakes up in bed next to him, knowing now that he's a monster.

And that she created him. This was once a young man who won her with his generosity and understanding, his good humor and sweetness. He's still bright, he's still clever, there's no evidence against him. And he'll be creating a lot more victims, starting on this rewind day with his father -- unless she takes the responsibility for putting an end to him. So she finally turns to the person with experience in ending people's lives: Jack.

That’s the basic arc; it would have brought you about halfway through the season. There were plans for the second half, partly based on the fallout from all this, but as you weren’t left hanging in the middle of that arc, it’s not as urgent.

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Speaker
[info]speakerwiggin at 2005-06-01 02:10 (UTC) (Link)
so at the point he dies in day one, his soul (for lack of a better term) is gone.

So when she rewinds...she's not technically going back in time to a point before he was given that decision, and by saving him, she doesn't take that choice away from him...but, technically, on the rewind, he's soulless? and in some strange way things continue to be linear?

am i digging too much here?
Tightrope Walker
[info]tightropegirl at 2005-06-01 03:51 (UTC) (Link)
I thought about going into this in the post, but wasn't sure how anal people wanted to get. I should have known. :)

The short answer is, no, time is not rewinding in the way you're thinking, or at least time in this instance isn't a mechanical river that unfolds without input from anyone. It might help to think of what happens as editing; you're going back over a paragraph and rewriting parts of it, but the original paragraph is there. (Otherwise, why would Jensen have deja vu? If you think about it, you'd say, "Wait a minute... Jensen had deja vu, but he didn't live through this twice, he only lived through it once, so how can he be remembering things that didn't happen?")

I remember how shocked I was the first time I saw a documentary that talked about time, space, and motion as inter-related. The thought-example they gave was, imagine that all motion ceases in the universe. It ceases for three seconds. For three seconds, no atom, no molecule, of star or ocean or person moves. For those three seconds, there's no time. And I thought, of course there's time -- there was three seconds of time! Or... was there, if there was no one to experience it? But time is independent of experience! It's an objective thing! ...Isn't it?

Then they started to talk about how, if our universe is simply one in a series of universes that expand and die and are born again, there's no reason to think that the laws of physics for the next universe may not be entirely different. Effect could precede cause, for instance. At that point, I have to take my purse and go out for a latte.

But to bring it all back to Tru: We do not know the nature of the soul. Let's say that the soul, like God, transcends time and space and the pecularities of this particular universe. The soul leaves the universe of physical law that we know, exits through door, stage right, and enters a realm of existence utterly unknowable to us.

It is no longer in our space-time. The editors can't stuff it into Jensen's body, because it's not there. The linear view of that soul, what we as humans see (like a one-dimensional creature looking at a three-dimensional object -- ever read Flatland?) -- would show it in existence up to, say, 5:45 on September 4th. At that point, it left linear time, never to return. The editors can run us all back over that paragraph, right up till 5:45, but they can't go any further with Jensen. He's an anomaly who should not exist in space-time as we know it. Tru's father would see him as an abomination.

I will also add, this is the sort of philosophical discussion that could be peeled back for days. Television, because of its time constraints, is intolerant of explanations that can't be rendered in less than a sentence or so. I think there was rightly some hesitance to get into this sort of thing on the show because it opens a can of worms that would require essays to discuss.

So at the end of the day, I'd say... go with it. Or not. It's up to you.
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Badger
[info]badgermirlacca at 2005-06-01 02:34 (UTC) (Link)
But Jensen's soul is already committed -- it can't return, but his body, memories, and the habits of his personality continue after the time he "died."

But doesn't this mean that whatever Tru's mentorPower is, time is not, in fact, truly rewinding? Because if it is, and she really is starting a day over in which Jensen was not, at the beginning, dead, and did not die in the course of the day--the death and the subsequent commitment of his soul to its fate also never happened.

The only way you could posit the arc you're talking about is that once someone dies, no matter what Tru does, they're dead. She isn't really "rewinding" the day.

Otherwise, if it's a matter of the mentorPower tapping someone on the shoulder and saying, "You get a second chance, but that corpse next to you doesn't," then it doesn't really matter what Tru does at all, does it?

Either Jensen is brought back as a result of Tru's actions, or no one is.

Can you help me understand the logic here?
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-01 08:07 (UTC) (Link)
From what I understand, fate says to certain people you get a chance to ask fo help. But what happens after they ask is up to Tru & Jack. Tyg
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RivkaT
[info]rivkat at 2005-06-01 03:48 (UTC) (Link)
Sigh. Every time I think my love for you can't grow, it just does. S2 was getting interesting -- especially the switched day where Jack got the request -- and thus it was killed. Sic semper the good stuff, I fear.
Secret Identity
[info]mildmannered at 2005-06-01 04:20 (UTC) (Link)
Wow. Just. Wow.
I'm so glad you're here to tell us these stories.

Just for the sake of knowing, *then* what happens?
Polter-Cow
[info]spectralbovine at 2005-06-01 06:59 (UTC) (Link)
Cooool.
Halimede
[info]halimede at 2005-06-01 07:49 (UTC) (Link)
but as you weren’t left hanging in the middle of that arc,

But I have been now! Dude, this is riveting stuff.
rednikki
[info]rednikki at 2005-06-08 22:25 (UTC) (Link)
Agreed!
Lesley
[info]paratti at 2005-06-01 09:49 (UTC) (Link)
OOh, that would have been good
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-01 15:21 (UTC) (Link)

Jensen arc

Damn! I would have LOVED to have seen that arc play out. Such a shame that FOX did not have more faith in the show.
kelterra
[info]kelterra at 2006-01-28 13:37 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Jensen arc

was the "faith" part in your comment an unintentional play on words.
Tiffany Beavers-Busby
[info]tiffanysthought at 2005-06-02 05:58 (UTC) (Link)
That would've been amazing, I can't believe it was cancelled along with a LOT of other good shows. It's so sad that shows like "Desperate Housewives" are so hot with their "let's sleep with teenage lawn boys behind our husband's back!" when there are good shows like this being cancelled. Atleast this one had a REAL story line and it didn't need women running around naked in every episode to sell.
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-02 09:10 (UTC) (Link)

I'm sorry for my English...

Thanks a lot for taking your time to share this with us! It's really appreciated. It's a great detail of yours that someone that knows all the Tru Calling trama explains it to us, the fans, once we won't be able of watching it on TV anymore. Could you please tell us something about Harrison in the 2nd season? Would he discover (again) what's on with Richard? Would he keep on working for Richard? Would he always be on Tru's side or would he be influenced by his realtion with his father? Thanks a lot!
Christina
[info]kittybeenbad at 2005-06-06 17:26 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you so much for posting all of this. It's sad to see the show has been cancelled, but many of the fans are trying to keep it alive. I'm heading a virtual season that's already had the first episode 'air'. We're trying to keep true to the groundwork that's been laid down before for us so it's nice to see where the arc was headed in terms of what the mythology is and just how distinct the good / evil line is. Interesting notion about Jenson and in my opinion it's very plausible. I did think something like that happened with the deja vu thing, though I didn't catch that it would be his soul that might have moved on. Definitely upset that more of this arc couldn't be explored because of another bad decision by FOX.

~Kitty
The Relive a Day Foundation
http://radf.betweeneternitytime.com/
Nanny
[info]venus_blue at 2005-06-08 12:09 (UTC) (Link)
Linked from Wedonesque, please ignore me. I'm so upset now. Heh. How could anyone...god, I hate that they canceled this show. That plot line...I feel so cheated that I didn't get to see it.
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-08 13:36 (UTC) (Link)
I miss this show!

I'm definitely buying season 2 on DVD.

BTW I read Flatland! Eeewwwwwww! It was for required summer reading before my freshman year. I coudn't stand it. I thought it was one of the most awful things I've ever set eyes on, and I've seen an episode of the Simple Life!
[info]daromaius at 2005-06-08 13:35 (UTC) (Link)
Seconding [info]venus_blue. That sounds incredible, and is something I absolutely would have loved to see. When they cancelled TC they cancelled the last of the Must-See TV, as far as I'm concerned.
keith5by5
[info]keith5by5 at 2005-06-08 17:23 (UTC) (Link)

Sounds Good

I was wary hearing JE was getting involved, seeing as everyone in the BtVS had gone from female empowerment to oodling JM's abs. But that sounds good. Very good.
Christina
[info]kittybeenbad at 2005-06-09 00:55 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Sounds Good

haha, that's so true.
Claire
[info]scornedsaint at 2005-06-08 19:39 (UTC) (Link)
Wow, that sounds really cool. I never saw any of season 2 (Damn mid-terms!), but from what I heard it was supposed to be good, and this sounds like it would have been a great end to the season.
rednikki
[info]rednikki at 2005-06-08 22:21 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, damn damn damn. I have to say, the episode where it was Jack's opportunity to save someone, and he didn't take it, was amazing, and this sounds even BETTER.

Damn, I wish the second season had happened. My other half and I agree that the last two episodes that Fox aired were some of the best TV we've seen in a while.
Amy
[info]cran at 2005-06-08 23:27 (UTC) (Link)
Is there any way you and Jane could share the scripts (or parts of them) with us? This arc sounds amazing, and I'm so angry FOX canceled the show! Pretty much everyone who saw the aired season two episodes loved them, even if they weren't big fans of season one. Sigh.
[info]foreveryoung05 at 2005-06-10 05:37 (UTC) (Link)
I want the show back. My family and friends miss it so much....:-(
melbournegirl
[info]melbournegirl at 2005-06-10 07:59 (UTC) (Link)
My (basic) understanding is that Jensen's soul was gone at 5:45, along with his body/memories. In the rewind, Tru saves his body/memories, but can't save his soul.

Sounds a lot like that episode of 'Dead Like Me' where George saves a little girl from death and is then shown what will happen over time if she doesn't take her.
skyline.days
[info]naive_nostalgia at 2005-06-13 10:13 (UTC) (Link)
And for what seems like the millionth time lately, I find myself asking Why did Tru Calling have to get canceled?! So many interesting things were on their way and it seems like it got canceled at the worst possible time. Not that there would have been a good time. All I can say is thank you very much for posting this. It's good to know what was in store for the show.
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-14 06:10 (UTC) (Link)

The Jensen Arc

You said the fallout from the Jensen arc was urgent right now, but I hope you're planning to share. Our beloved show is gone, but it means so much having these tidbits about where it was going!! It helps to dull the pain.
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-16 00:36 (UTC) (Link)
I would then basically say that souls exist on a different plane to us. Time can be reversed or affected in any way on our plane, but no matter what, at that specific moment (5:45pm in the example), the soul will disconnect and fly away on it's plane, whether the body died this time around or not.

You can save the body, which still has all the memories and whatnot, but not the soul, not the essence. So the body carries on, still believing itself to be Jensen Richie, but it isn't. He's gone away, and this is just a husk, an empty shell who's soul departed in this timeline at the same moment he died in the aborted timeline.

And that proves Tru wrong. She reasoned that saving Jensen when she wasn't supposed to was equal to Jack killing whats-his-name in the Season 1 finale, but it isn't. Whats-his-name, as I so elloquently dub him, either didn't get the chance to return or turned it down, but either way, he crossed peacefully. In fact, if he was really vital to the plan of the person who controls Tru's powers, he probably would've been given a chance to return. But whatever, he went peacefully. But Tru, she really messed it up. Created a souless monster. I've gotta say, even though we don't know who wants survival for humans, Tru's "boss" or Jack's, Jack's seems to be playing it straighter.
kelterra
[info]kelterra at 2006-01-28 14:01 (UTC) (Link)
Luc. whats-his-name's name is Luc.

And yeah, I hate what Jack does as much as he says he does. Especially with Megan. I was in tears, proclaiming to my boyfriend "I hate jack." But after watching the season 2 eps. I don't hate him as much as I hate what he does.
Stefan Bauer
[info]stefanbauer at 2005-06-19 16:17 (UTC) (Link)
Hi!

wow.. thanks for your infos on the storyarcs of TRU CALLING

i just wanted to ask if you could possibly tell us what was wrong with Dr. Carrie Allen? why was she working with jack?

and.. i always wanted to know what the hell happened to meredith? and why did the actor leave?

thanks :)
Stefan
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-21 14:57 (UTC) (Link)

More

God! I'm so mad FOX cancelled it. When I saw it first was cancelled, I was sad, yet felt more at ease, as Season 1 fully aired. When it came back, I was like Jojo the Indian Circus Boy with his new pet. I petted it, cuddled it... and then FOX DESTROYED! OH MY GOD, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE! I need more Tru, and it saddens me more that no one in my school, (or at least my friends) was a fan of Tru. I have no one to talk to. And now I have to wait until August to get Seasons 1 and 2 on DVD because I don't have the money. This summer for TV was a downer, (excluding Family Guy) FOX made no good desicions this year. They axed shows like Tru, and kept shows like The Simple Life. WHY! WHY! WHYYYYY! I guess I'll go back to mourning and replaying clips in my head until August.
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-24 06:08 (UTC) (Link)

THANKS from DOWNUNDER!

Thanks sooooo much for sharing this very USEFUL piece of Jensen info.

I watched the last episode the other night and was rather sad realising that it was the last one EVER! So unfair, I really enjoyed this show and absolutely loved where it was headed.

Thanks again,
Yolanda from Sydney, Australia.

:)
(Anonymous) at 2005-06-28 01:22 (UTC) (Link)

Tru Calling in General

Hello all of you,

I'm just a regular 19 year old guy who has the unfortune to live in belgium :)
To put that in understandable words, we don't have Tru Calling on TV and since the show cancelled, it looks like we'll never gonna get it here.
I've downloaded all episodes over the internet since there was no other way of getting it here. I loved the show... I saw season one and the only six eps of season 2 in less than 3 days.

TC was an amazing show which in my eyes was much better than Buffy for example. I take buffy as an example because both shows contain some elements of life and death and its mystics.
The good thing about TC is that it is way more realistic than buffy and that it has another perspective on things. It's not all about the rescueing but the philosofy behind the whole story is amazing!

Subconsciencly you can follow the plot. I for example was on one line with where all this was going to. I was dragged into it. The good and the bad power. everything to be short.
The show got better and better.

When i read the arc for the next epz it would have been wonderfull to get that on TV.

Where did the show go wrong? I'd like to thing on the pilot and following epz. Those were the epz i hated the most. Also one thing i didn't like how was brought in was the way Davis confronts Tru with her calling. I think that was a downer for the show in the eyes of the general public. But if you ignore that matter and just keep going forward you will see that the show has a balance and that is stable and it evolves in a good way. It makes you want for more.

Apparently FOX had other intentions for the show. Nonetheless bad once. and certainly not the right onces. If they had TC go on for the rest of the season they would have seen that it had more ambition than they thought. Another pointer that i want to give out. Instead of being fixated on the commercial concept of the show try the quality of the show. TC had the quality and i'm pretty sure that others will agree with me. TC had alot of great reactions in Europe and in the US too.
24 might have all the viewers it needed but hey, everybody likes violence on their tv set that makes them go to the end of their seats. But do know that somepeople like to have a good show with good content that give mindblocks. TC was the soap to give mindblocks. Lost was the riddle show that gave us riddle blocks.

TC was very good and i know it is false hope but i still wish it can continue in some way. The plots that were coming up are great. Wish there was a way I could see them.

Greetz from Belgium,

K.
(Anonymous) at 2005-07-01 02:47 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you so much for all the information you submitted on explaining the Tru Calling mythology and where the Jensen arc was headed, I very much appreciate it. I'm sorry if this has been asked before but has Jon Feldman or any of the writers thought about continuing Tru Calling in a book series?I mean at the very least it would definitely bring closure for all the devoted fans out there who are still holding onto that false hope that it will come back somehow.
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